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brando
Calendar Man

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  10:16:03  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After having my bottom paint soda blasted off, I now have rough/pourous bottom. It sais it has a hard semi gloss white finish. Can anyone offer any insight on this or other recomendations? I'm afraid color won't match the hull.

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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Big Dave

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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  10:22:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good stuff

David, New Kent, Va



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ChuckB
Good Luck Chuck

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  10:37:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is hard as a rock. You will still have to fair the bottom to smooth out and wet sanding and polishing will yield a high gloss. I have seen mixed info about tinting, but it is a pure white that will not match the color of a Mako hull.

I have it and am very pleased.

'82 224 - Mobile, AL
Project Boats - Eric Nelson's 224
Repowered w/'04 Evinrude DI 200
Pulled by Space Shuttle Towing TUNDRA.

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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  10:58:10  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckB

It is hard as a rock. You will still have to fair the bottom to smooth out and wet sanding and polishing will yield a high gloss. I have seen mixed info about tinting, but it is a pure white that will not match the color of a Mako hull.

I have it and am very pleased.



So therefore I need to paint the hull?

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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ChuckB
Good Luck Chuck

USA
10378 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  11:03:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brando


So therefore I need to paint the hull?



No, you can have two different shades of white. You are not likely going to match hull anyway, so do bottom and see how it looks. If you do not like different shades of white, try and break up with a boot stripe, and if still not happy put paint on the list for future project.

'82 224 - Mobile, AL
Project Boats - Eric Nelson's 224
Repowered w/'04 Evinrude DI 200
Pulled by Space Shuttle Towing TUNDRA.

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back-n-black
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USA
887 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  14:10:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interlux frowns on tinting this stuff. I used it and love the results. You have a window whereby it is easIER to sand and buff out. If you wait too long (after a week or so), it will be much harder to buff out.

It gives the bottom a fresh clean look.

Jim
Back-n-Black
1983 Mako 224
Davidson, NC

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brando
Calendar Man

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  15:30:36  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just talk to a guy who gave me a quote on doing this and he said you do not have to sand or buff it out after you apply it . he said he wet sand the bottom that applies to coats and that's it . he quoted me 1100 dollars to do the job . I don't have boat stands and building to put the boat in to do it .

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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Big Dave

USA
10424 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  15:42:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems like skinny money to me,

David, New Kent, Va



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ChuckB
Good Luck Chuck

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  15:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It does spray on as a finished product, my mentioning wet sanding was to get glossy finish. It will dry with a semi-gloss finish and look fine. My was done outside on homemade boat stands , therefore I can't really comment on cost. Will you be prepping, does that price include materials, will he spray primer, sand primer smooth before applying VC, etc...?

'82 224 - Mobile, AL
Project Boats - Eric Nelson's 224
Repowered w/'04 Evinrude DI 200
Pulled by Space Shuttle Towing TUNDRA.

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Raybo Marine NY
Rob

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  15:52:56  Show Profile  Visit Raybo Marine NY's Homepage  Reply with Quote
when you tint it perhaps it is not a stable solution, applying it could result in unevenness or blotchy appearance when you sand it- that is just a guess of mine I have never used it but I cant see why interlux would not like people tinting it?

it will look PURE white and very off from the original mako hullsides.

Lindenhurst, New York

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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  18:12:52  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckB

It does spray on as a finished product, my mentioning wet sanding was to get glossy finish. It will dry with a semi-gloss finish and look fine. My was done outside on homemade boat stands , therefore I can't really comment on cost. Will you be prepping, does that price include materials, will he spray primer, sand primer smooth before applying VC, etc...?



For the same price he will do gel coat if I want and match color

Cost includes delivery and pick up of boat, -To wetsand n buff all above chime edges both sides n
across transome where once was soda blasted off n then apply 2 coats
of Interlux vc off- shore without antifoul on the bottom underneath
only - est time n materials is $ 1,102.00 - breakdown goes as 5hrs to
wetsand n buff the soda blasted areas discussed in here n we get $12
pr ft plus materials pr way to do the bottom in the vc sealer from
interlux

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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Raybo Marine NY
Rob

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  18:38:00  Show Profile  Visit Raybo Marine NY's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Red flag if someone says they can spray gelcoat under there and sand and polish it for that price

Lindenhurst, New York

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Triplecrownnc
Big Dave

USA
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Posted - 10/16/2012 :  18:52:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Raybo Marine NY

Red flag if someone says they can spray gelcoat under there and sand and polish it for that price




that is what I was thinking

David, New Kent, Va



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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2012 :  19:06:05  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Raybo Marine NY

Red flag if someone says they can spray gelcoat under there and sand and polish it for that price




He said gel coat cost about the same as the interlux. I have no clue but thought that didn't sound right.

My main goal is to correct the rough/porous bottom from when I had the bottom paint soda blasted. I'm all ears to either an economical fix for the time being or let it go and wait to do it right.

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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1973Mako23
Member

USA
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Posted - 10/17/2012 :  07:46:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That sounds fishy.I am no pro like Raybo but I got tons of time in gelcoating the entire outside of a 23.Probably had about 600 or so just in materials just counting gelcoat and hardner and another 200 for awlgrip supplies that was sprayed above the waterline.Got cheap prices on gel which was 10 gallons from advanced plastics
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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2012 :  09:20:36  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just got off the phone with another local guy who looked at boat. He said he would remove all hardware on transom, fill in any sings dents etc with epoxy&cabosil, apply 1-2 coats barrier then two coats of interlux $1200. Didnt mention anything about wet Sanding. Stated $400-$600 materials and rest is labor. I got this second opinion to prove myself wrong on the first guy and here they are on the same page.

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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Raybo Marine NY
Rob

USA
8745 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2012 :  09:46:50  Show Profile  Visit Raybo Marine NY's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brando

apply 1-2 coats barrier then two coats of interlux $1200. Didnt mention anything about wet Sanding. Stated $400-$600 materials and rest is labor. I got this second opinion to prove myself wrong on the first guy and here they are on the same page.



roller or spray?

my comments before were in regards to the first guy saying he would spray and sand/polish gelcoat for the same price.

Lindenhurst, New York

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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2012 :  09:52:56  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Raybo Marine NY

quote:
Originally posted by brando

apply 1-2 coats barrier then two coats of interlux $1200. Didnt mention anything about wet Sanding. Stated $400-$600 materials and rest is labor. I got this second opinion to prove myself wrong on the first guy and here they are on the same page.



roller or spray?

my comments before were in regards to the first guy saying he would spra

y and sand/polish gelcoat for the same price.



the second guy said he would prefer to spray

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
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brando
Calendar Man

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2013 :  15:14:43  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckB

It does spray on as a finished product, my mentioning wet sanding was to get glossy finish. It will dry with a semi-gloss finish and look fine. My was done outside on homemade boat stands , therefore I can't really comment on cost. Will you be prepping, does that price include materials, will he spray primer, sand primer smooth before applying VC, etc...?



When you say primer do you mean the interlux barrier coat 2000E ?

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200 Suzuki
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MakoShako
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USA
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Posted - 02/19/2013 :  08:54:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I roll and tipped mine w no primer ... It set up fast so dont roll too much on before tipping. I used Imtelux Perfection on the top and had a bootstripe put on to separate. FLY on top and white bottom ... Looks real good

72' Mako 22'
NoNeck, VA
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ChuckB
Good Luck Chuck

USA
10378 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2013 :  09:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brando


When you say primer do you mean the interlux barrier coat 2000E ?




Just saw this...I used Interlux Epoxy Primekote. I used because that is what my painter recommended .

'82 224 - Mobile, AL
Project Boats - Eric Nelson's 224
Repowered w/'04 Evinrude DI 200
Pulled by Space Shuttle Towing TUNDRA.

Transom and bottom - http://www.classicmako.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31915


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keyman
Member

USA
1438 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2013 :  11:06:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was told by Interlux that they have discontinued the manufacture of Interlux VC products because of carcinogen. I used Interlux 2000E for coating of gas tank. I believe that it can be used for sealing of hull too.


Keyman
Paoli, PA
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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2013 :  13:51:01  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I better buy it soon. Honestly I am really dragging my feet on this project. I have to do it but half afraid of crawling under the thing. Regardless of how many how to's and what not to do I'm just not sure its worth the risk and aggivation. However I would be happy to save maybe $500-$600

1984 Mako 238 WA
200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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Bdemir
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Posted - 02/22/2013 :  05:20:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am in the process of this myself. I spoke with the interlux rep last week at the Miami boat show and he told me not to bother with primer and that VC is thicker and harder than 2000e. I didn't soda blast mine I just sanded but I don't see why u can't just paint right over it if its so thick like the rep told me. If I were you I would talk to interlux and try a section on the boat by roll and tip and see how it looks.

Bruno D
1989 211
200 yami 4stk
Miami,FL


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brando
Calendar Man

USA
4241 Posts

Posted - 02/27/2013 :  21:46:35  Show Profile  Visit brando's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bdemir

I am in the process of this myself. I spoke with the interlux rep last week at the Miami boat show and he told me not to bother with primer and that VC is thicker and harder than 2000e. I didn't soda blast mine I just sanded but I don't see why u can't just paint right over it if its so thick like the rep told me. If I were you I would talk to interlux and try a section on the boat by roll and tip and see how it looks.



Thanks for the heads up. I will look into that

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200 Suzuki
Mercersburg PA/Ocean City MD
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